Comments on: Shikwa http://uzair.nairang.org/articles/2008/03/24/shikwa/ Where Uzairs Roam Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:30:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Uzair http://uzair.nairang.org/articles/2008/03/24/shikwa/#comment-24261 Uzair Mon, 19 May 2008 22:36:20 +0000 http://uzair.nairang.org/articles/2008/03/24/shikwa/#comment-24261 <p>Yeah, I agree with what you're saying about the point of the poem. I like the idea of a reading/discussion group as well, and I think the Nairang Foundation would provide a good umbrella. More on FB.</p> Yeah, I agree with what you’re saying about the point of the poem. I like the idea of a reading/discussion group as well, and I think the Nairang Foundation would provide a good umbrella. More on FB.

]]> By: a. http://uzair.nairang.org/articles/2008/03/24/shikwa/#comment-24258 a. Mon, 19 May 2008 20:13:56 +0000 http://uzair.nairang.org/articles/2008/03/24/shikwa/#comment-24258 <p>That was really amazing. Like I said, there's so much I've missed out on...Even though I need the crutch of the english translation, all the enjoyment and meaning that I derive from this is in the Urdu words and the poetic devices used therein. So deprived, so deprived... Thanks for finding this. We should start a reading group... with people who can teach us the Urdu and the Farsi. We need it... how can we make it happen?</p> <p>As for the content of Shikva - I actually quite liked it. The 'questions' you seem to be wanting in there are sort of beside the point, precisely b/c he is writing as a jilted insider/lover, rather than as a scientist or neutral adjudicator. He was not a stranger to the realm of rational enquiry or total Skepticism, but I believe he chose which side of the line to be on, always aware, as he mouths through the nightingale at the end, that perhaps the joy/colour in living is precisely the many faces of ourselves we conceal in our hearts. I say this w/out coming at the whole thing w. some preconceived respect for him (I've talked about my disappointment in other quatrains with you). I just think that this one is good.</p> <p>Anyway, thanks! Would love a poetry workshop/discussion group.</p> That was really amazing. Like I said, there’s so much I’ve missed out on…Even though I need the crutch of the english translation, all the enjoyment and meaning that I derive from this is in the Urdu words and the poetic devices used therein. So deprived, so deprived… Thanks for finding this. We should start a reading group… with people who can teach us the Urdu and the Farsi. We need it… how can we make it happen?

As for the content of Shikva - I actually quite liked it. The ‘questions’ you seem to be wanting in there are sort of beside the point, precisely b/c he is writing as a jilted insider/lover, rather than as a scientist or neutral adjudicator. He was not a stranger to the realm of rational enquiry or total Skepticism, but I believe he chose which side of the line to be on, always aware, as he mouths through the nightingale at the end, that perhaps the joy/colour in living is precisely the many faces of ourselves we conceal in our hearts. I say this w/out coming at the whole thing w. some preconceived respect for him (I’ve talked about my disappointment in other quatrains with you). I just think that this one is good.

Anyway, thanks! Would love a poetry workshop/discussion group.

]]> By: syed http://uzair.nairang.org/articles/2008/03/24/shikwa/#comment-22539 syed Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:05:40 +0000 http://uzair.nairang.org/articles/2008/03/24/shikwa/#comment-22539 <p>That's it ? no updates about what's going on with you? no recent happenings ? just a couple of lines and that's it? geez.. I might have to write a Shikwa of my own about you.</p> That’s it ? no updates about what’s going on with you? no recent happenings ? just a couple of lines and that’s it? geez.. I might have to write a Shikwa of my own about you.

]]> By: W. http://uzair.nairang.org/articles/2008/03/24/shikwa/#comment-22312 W. Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:37:55 +0000 http://uzair.nairang.org/articles/2008/03/24/shikwa/#comment-22312 <p>That was beautiful, thank you for posting it. A. and I really enjoyed it. Any idea who read it out? I am quite sure it is Talat Hussain. We studied this in college, but couldn't appreciate it as we can now.</p> That was beautiful, thank you for posting it. A. and I really enjoyed it. Any idea who read it out? I am quite sure it is Talat Hussain. We studied this in college, but couldn’t appreciate it as we can now.

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